Note: If you aren’t used to doing this sort of thing, or using things like a “multimeter” this is going to seem crazy and hard and way out of your DIY league. rember the Galaxy 7 and 8 scandal? I almost cried but then I had to stop and ask myself “How the hell did she stumble on this????? False defect note: When the battery is inserted into the charger and the status LED blinks RED, remove the battery from. Put the plastic cover back on the battery pack (just the part that goes into the charger) and set your battery on the charger to see if it will take a charge. Well, I’ll be damned. I’m using Chrome at the moment and it’s showing up perfectly. A little more reading into lithium cells might be a good idea to better understand what state your cells are at before attempting to try this. I took the battery for my Swiffer vac in to a battery place where they will rebuild them – much cheaper – the guy put the leads on wrong, so when I plugged it in, blam blew up the circuit board, and out went a vac that was only a year old. Karen Bertelsen. Good luck and let me know how it works for you. This is … Plus, when the tough jobs show up, you’ll be ready. ~ karen! Sounds like a bad idea to me. A reliable method for fixing them. Question though. If the status LED blinks GREEN, then the battery is properly charging. It should only cost a dollar or two at a thrift store. Add to Cart. ä-xGÞßÈéÀªäþûË%y .È¸$`!XÉ For one thing, it’s between the cells and the stem that the problem is occurring, which is why when you try to charge it in its regular charger (through the stem) it doesn’t work. ~ karen! You just need to do it once. I love my Ryobi to death. • When charging, make sure temperature is between 6-40°C(43-104°F), -14-45°C(6.8-113°F) ... 1 Green Light The battery is between 40% and 25% capacity Lights go out The battery is less than 25% capacity and I sure wish I’d seen this a couple of month ago before I gave up and tossed two battery powered vacuum cleaners that would no longer take a charge. I zapped my Bosch drill battery without removing the casing and successfully revived it. You do NOT have to buy a new $50 battery. The proper tell is actually power is watts, energy is volts, work is amps. The section under the V with the straight line(s). Was about the throw it out. Jump straight to the tutorial and how to video. Step 2. Let me know exactly how elated you were after you brought your first battery back to life in the comments section. Great. But it’s infuriating when the battery won’t recharge. Have a Ryobi Battery That Won’t Charge? The straight line. 419015 (sold without battery) 670251 (sold with battery) Snapper XD. ~ karen! Simply plug in, wait a few seconds, and unplug. LED flashlights, Vape boxes, Makita chainsaw, Honda RoBo Lawnmower, every laptop I have ever owned, and all my USB chargers. Whelp, I guess I will be using the ol broom again. You probably left it in the charger too long which weirdly drains the battery. When the battery is inserted, the right light should also ignite solid red to indicate that it is charging. And as we all know, half a screw is worthless. Step 10. If you have any sort of cordless power tool, but especially one powered by a Ryobi 18V battery, you have no doubt encountered the dreaded flashing red charger light. always always always remove any jewelry when working with electronics or electricity. Karen, YOU ARE BRILLIANT! I originally bought the 20" Greenworks corded mower and it failed like you described above within 2 uses. Step 8. (If you don’t have a multimeter skip to Step 9 and hope for the best). Not all AC Adapters are created equal, some are AC output, be sure to read the printed data on the charger. Each battery has 4 contacts and I … (but that’s just a guess) Either way, don’t try to charge it from the stem. The lower the voltage the longer it may take to boost. What a woman! Thanks John. 80V LITHIUM-ION RECHARGEABLE BATTERY & CHARGER. DGr. (tongue planted firmly in cheek!) If you accidentally use the wrong wire will stuff blow up? If Karen’s ‘hack’ works on a cordless, this will change my life! It just wasn’t mathematically probable. Suel, Exactly! For a 12 V battery pack, which has 3 cells, the voltages will be more like: Micah, I agree that directly applying an uncontrolled charge voltage to a Li-ion cell can be disastrous, and that charging above 4.2 V per cell is definitely bad, probably dangerous, BUT, the whole idea, as shown here, does not involve continuous application of the charge, it does not bypass the thermal protection, it does not connect directly to the cells, and the wires are definitely not “designed” to connect continuously to the contacts…moreover, Karen specifically suggested short pulses, and continuous monitoring of the pack voltage, and only providing enough voltage level to “turn off” the UVLO circuitry…if one ignores every part of this process, and connects directly to the points shown, this is still at a point where the primary safety mechanisms of the pack are functional. – In this case, any AC adapter with a rated voltage about 6 VDC should provide about 8 V with no load, which should be “good to go” to re-energize a 12 V battery pack. Another of your brilliant ‘stuff’ I can steal. If the charger that’s designed for the pack isn’t working, there’s probably a reason for it. Thank you :). I was wondering how you were able to blur out certain things on videos. Today I hooked the battery up to a small 12 volt solar panel charger and it’s alive! There's a hidden screw under a piece of plastic. Thine the glory. With the additional voltage point information that I provided for the pack UVLO (hopefully these numbers meet with your approval?) you have a BAD cell and this trick won’t work. It’s “defective”. That is really silly. As an engineer developing battery packs, I urge you not to attempt this. I haven’t had an issue with mine since fixing them so I haven’t been able to test it out. A 18 v battery poses almost no danger at all. ;) ~ karen! I really don’t know how much experience you have at this technology, but this level of rhetoric is well beyond what is appropriate… maybe, something like:”not following the recommended procedure, or connecting voltages to points other than suggested, can result in damage to the battery pack, and danger of the battery pack catching fire”, Hi Karen – you’re fantastic – I read almost every one of your posts, and the great comments as well. (Looking on how to contact your publicist ). Any professional technician is taught this in their training day one. For use only with Greenworks Li-ion Battery Charger (CH60A00). Upon battery insertion you should have two solid red indicators (no blinking red). Also, is it possible to hook these type batteries up to a Battery Tender Trickle Charger and have them be “pulsed” back to being able to charge? on Chrome. It just needs a little boost. Sadness. I was stationed in Newfoundland with the United States Navy back in the late 60s…and I did find the locals ‘industrious’ as you state. Normally, the battery pack protection circuits will shut off the battery at about 2.7 V to 3 V per cell (13.5 – 15 V for your 18/20 V pack of 5 cells), and allow charging, BUT, when the cells discharge to about 2.3 V each, the battery control system will shut them off, internally, to avoid further discharge from totally “killing” the cells; at that point, the tiny voltage that you see on your multimeter is from the tiny amount of “leakage current” getting through the “kill switch” circuit. If you have any issues locating items, please contact us at 1-888-909-6757. I’ve been using Makita and Ryobi 9.6v to 18v power tools and batteries for several decades, and this would have saved me much money/frustration over the years. We are an industrious sort. You my friend are a genius !! Then when I went back into Chrome it showed up. The section under the V with the straight line(s). BUT it did load! Remove battery, unplug charger for 30 seconds. For testing an 18 volt battery choose the 20 volts setting. I thought that was pretty neat. How can we recharge these batteries NOT in a battery holder? Your ring or other jewellery can easily cause such a short. . On this charger cord you’ve mutilated, how do you know which of the stripped wires is the ‘positive’ one? Pull the top off of the battery case. A great plan for extending the life of expensive batteries! :/ You can try but I’m not sure it’ll fix those. I find the battery charger will recognize that the battery is good again when you boost it to between 10 and 14 volts. How strong does the AC adapter need to be? When charging on the factory charger unit, thats how the circuit board recognizes stored voltage and allows charging to complete the cycle…. Just jump starting it isn’t a good idea. If this light on the right is not igniting or is flashing red, this may indicate an issue and we would be interested in hearing more about this. now green and charging. it’s not removable). Thanks! Amen. Kobalt. Use a battery charger at the 2 amp setting or just put the battery into its normal charger and tap plug the charger into an outlet quickly several times, the proceed to recharge. Nice save on the little line with 3 dots is safe. Do this on and off for approximately a minute. It could be those batteries are genuinely at the end of their life. When the red light turns off and only the green light is on that indicates that the battery pack is charged and the vehicle is ready to use. It worked for you because your adapter was 15 volts. GreenWorks; Battery Charger; Pro 80V 2Ah; Page: 5; GreenWorks Pro 80V 2Ah User manual Page: 5. No proposals though. We aren’t made of water. zE-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org Li(Ni,Co,Mn)O 2 11 all form solid solutions over a wide concentra-tion range, and if present at all, ﬁrst-order phase transitions are weak I have begun switching my tools from ryobi to Ridgid, for the lifetime warranty which includes the batteries. I always like to have a backup – so $75 – $100. Mike Mac’s simple recommendation is that anytime you work with electronics or electricity is to remove any watches and jewelry. charging. Apparently lithium ion batteries should be “pulse” charged. (although by all means feel free to do so) You do not have to wait until they ship you a replacement battery to finish your project. I’ve now fallen in love with you because of this post. GET MY POSTS emailed to you 3 times a week←, *Proceed with caution and follow instructions exactly. (unless you leave the battery in the charger too long again, lol) ~ karen! Imagine if there IS a short in a cell (and it hasn’t erupted) , the pack will show something like 13-14v. Thine the glory. – normal voltage at end of run-time 8.1 V -9 V Step 3. If the voltage in the pack doesn’t start rising, or the wires you are touching onto the ends of the batteries get hot, STOP!!!!!!! Greenworks Pro 80V 18-Inch Cordless Chainsaw, 2Ah Li-Ion Battery and Charger Included GCS80420,Green/Black 4.5 out of 5 stars 762 $273.19 $ 273 . That’s interesting! Also for: 25282. ~ karen! I will try the tapping trick to a dead lithium Robin battery I have to see if it works but this trick will work to get a Nicadbattery taking a charge again, and no need to tear it apart. I can’t wait to show him this! Thanks Karen, I’m trying this for sure. Now all I need is a 21st century cordless… anything. Besides the voltage the amps for the batteries need to be good and correct as indicated on the cells. Keep up the great wrk. Darn, wish I had seen this a month ago. I may even show him how to do it. This. Voltage doesn’t kill. Just cut it off. Plug your AC adapter in and using the wires, boost your dead battery. All Rights Reserved. It should be higher than it was before boosting. The one I used was 15 volts but I’m sure it would work with a 5 volt one as well … it would just take longer to work up the charge. Here’s a 3 minute tutorial video showing me as I fix my own battery. Each cell is normally 3.7v The light also remembers which mode you were last using and turns on in that mode. ~ karen! But I’m sure “Karen” got the main point, which is her “fix” worked as described!!! We may have some vintage stuff that could be revived. This will give you the most accurate reading. Please direct marriage proposals to my publicist. It will serve as a warning to those who choose to not follow the very specific instructions I have included for this very specific situation. Separate and strip off 1″ of each wire. #2 Milwaukee Over and over. Just cut it off. You need to pry the plastic off to get at the screw underneath. **********************************************************************************. You have to charge the batteries at the source – the batteries, *before* it goes through the circuit board to the stem. See your product instruction manual for more information. I used a very thin screwdriver to pry it off. Low voltage charging: I called Greenworks and they stated it is probably defective and it would be easiest to ship it back to Amazon. You Can Fix That. Remove the screws holding the battery together. This is definitely MacGyver worthy! Here's how to fix that. It’s supposed to do a faster and better job of charging your batteries but according to the reviews on Home Depot and Amazon they don’t have this issue figured out quite yet. Do this repeatedly. The most common cause for your Ryobi 40V Charger showing flashing red and green lights is that the battery has been over-discharged. Want to guess why?? First, I loved this article…. Thanks. I have one that I loved but the battery will not charge. The two exterior contacts of either side of the plugin arm are positive and negative. A wall wart can easily charge a 18650 cell to above 4.2 volts which at best will just shorten the life of the cell, worst case you have a fire on your hands. Those are 18650 batteries! I do have 2 questions. I’ll await the call about from the call about your call. I used a very thin screwdriver to pry it off. Very strange. One spouse is enough. Contact your dealer. With it's large number of battery cells and watt hour rating, I keep these puppies for my larger amp drawing tools; I have the mower, chainsaw, wet/dry vac, and hybrid pressure washer. Step 4. Excellent! Basically the battery can short out internally (NiCads grow metal fibers internally sometimes) and freezing/thawing the battery can make internals shrink & expand enough to break the short. Current does. A flashing green LED indicates that the battery is being charged. If you still only get a red flashing light and the battery won't charge, boost the battery some more. Add to Cart. Step 1. Thanks for the video and instructions, Karen. Be careful though, because you CAN overcharge each cell with a 5 volt charger. As usual, Karen, great work helping your readers to save some money, save some headaches, and, perhaps, feel the accomplishment of successfully applying “battery CPR” ! My question is simply why bother taking the battery apart in the first place? Anything less and one cell may have failed, so the charger will simply refuse to charge it because it is ‘probably’ damaged or faulty. 40 V Lithium-Ion Dual Blade Mower. Dedicated research after being INFURIATED with Ryobi batteries. This is where this ‘boosting’ trick comes in, we are manually putting in a little bit of charge to get it back up to the point that the charger will accept it as a ‘flat’ battery and agree to charge to for us. I painted my nails for the video. the comments including and after pablo’s made my day, had a good, and needed chuckle. Pretty dangerous to try this. Fully-charged Lithium Ion _cells_ are 4.2 V, immediately after charging, but drop to about 3.7 V under load, for most of the battery pack “run time”. To those of you who found this subject matter to be on par with spending 3 hours in a waiting room, sorry ’bout that. cially functioning Li battery cathode materials, LiFePO 4 is unique to having this property – LiCoO 2,9 LiMn 2O 4,10 Li(Ni,Co,Al)O 2,and ∗Electrochemical Society Active Member. It isn’t just dead. If the status LED blinks GREEN, then the battery is properly charging. So I’d like to make a point of saying I love these tools and use them all the time. That’s genius you are remarkable thanks for the great information. Your email address will not be published. I need the inverse- my multimeter was dead even with a new battery :(. The straight line. And, I was cursing at the thought of spending big bucks for a replacement – which is not enough. Your rechargeable battery is now fixed. Black. I saw the awesome video and use Safari! I have some older Ryobi batteries that will say that they’re charged but will give out after half a screw. Be still my heart. Yeah only problem with this logic is when you are buying a desalt you are really buying a black and decker /Porter cable/Stanley product and the only thing stand out about them is the snappy yellow and black bumble bee color scheme and a thicker plastic housing not to say dewalt stuff isn’t ok,but in my humble (and professional for twenty + years )opinion,there are only three manufacturers of cordless tools that turn out a professional grade product that generally speaking will last years beyond the factory warranty #1makita The charger was only 2 years old and had to buy a new one. 25302 lawn mower pdf manual download. I am a professional and I know these things. It isn’t just dead. Using chrome. This post is NOT sponsored by Ryobi. Charging voltage is also important as putting 18-20 volts from some random wall adapter into a single 1.3v cell could lead to the same disaster. My guess is doing otherwise could explode the circuit board. ~ karen! Cut the end off of your AC adapter. NOTE: my 15-22v is very rough, and these thresholds will vary from brand to brand, so don’t take them as gospel. Try Chrome or Firefox and let me know. It isn’t. View and Download GreenWorks 25302 owner's manual online. Your method of pulsing the pack to get it back to work is, usually, a good one, and can also be used with some cell phones that appear to be dead, by connecting/disconnecting the charger every 10-30 seconds for a few minutes, this will “trick” the “kill switch” circuit into allowing a small current pulse into the battery pack, and it only takes a small bit of charge to get the cell voltage back above 2.3 V/cell (11.5 V for that 5-cell battery pack), which will allow the battery pack protection circuit to let charging begin. Red light on Belkin Back up Battery. I have it on good authority that Ryobi doesn’t think so. ~ karen! Good for you. 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